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原帖由 alpha 于 2007-12-25 19:48 发表 3 E6 ~4 o8 E% _! n$ }$ B* h* |1 L
失去亲人，朋友，或者同胞是悲伤的。我每天都跟帖子看消息。然而看到一些人对加拿大警方，学校的怀疑指责我觉得不妥。+ m' h* m' E" n! I# y& A3 {
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1）他们的办案速度并不慢。11月30人发现尸体，12月18人家人得到通知。两周的时间。中间需要很多部门的协 ...

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我有同感，顶一个。。 最近一直关注这事情，可惜总是同样内容的帖子出现，说句难听的，要是真的非他杀，难道真要捏造出一个凶手不成？ 我表哥是学法医的，有天我咨询了他下，其实身体上的伤斑，又叫尸斑，出事前任何一个小小的碰撞，在因为其他原因失去生命后，身体上会留下清晰的印记，但是不是导致死亡的原因，那情况太复杂了。。大家该冷静，总觉的最近这样指责的回帖比较过了。。 真的要抗议，提议，建议各位好好准备个理性的英文信件，问问市长，警察部门的负责人，比在这里发同样内容的帖子来的更快。。

Your post is really mean to his parents. The whole process is really unreasonable because I faced the almost same situation this year, so I know the difference. For this case, you really do not see any effort from police and SMU at the begining based on what his parents described. They just changed their attitude after his parents posted help there and invoked so many attention in Chinese community.  I believe the police in Canada is fair and probably Mr. Mao committed suicide, but the way they handle this whole case is really awful. If the same case happen in the future, we do not want our parents find the news after 20 days.

我个人一直希望大家发言的太度。
% D6 u* X1 i7 X6 E像楼上说的“That is because you never suddenly lose any dearest lovers like this way!! e  h  O" U5 D/ a$ A* i+ U
”即是不正确的。你怎么知道别人没有这样的经历呢？证据何在呢？这是一个典型的没有证据，断然下结论的例子。当然我的目的不是驳斥此论点，而是提醒大家注意态度。There will be many things you will never know. Without evidence, any assertion is weak and will cause negative effect.# C6 U  R8 z7 d: j+ B
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如果大家觉得可疑，事实上也不是没有办法确定事实。但是，有几个步骤必须要走。我的目的不是为警方辩护。问题没有证据的指责只能让事情更糟。所以提醒大家在没有证据的情况下不要下定论。我们知道的消息也不过是新闻报道。其实你比较一下中文和英文的报道，英文的要客观地多。中文很多都是从论坛抄的。3 g: P. i7 J# h6 B6 F( J8 H! H

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1）警方和校方要和家人会面以后才能对外公布定论。
2 S, E' r, F9 ]5 y7 u2）如果其家人不同意警方的定论，可以向法庭申请上述，重新尸检。这个不难。但问题是律师和钱。如果请不起律师，法庭会指定一个。但是不知道是否对非加拿大人应然适合，其家人在加的费用还需要个人承担。
4 d$ V. ^3 ~0 L/ ?. P$ @3）校方与七家人可能达成一定协议。
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# o! y" C+ N% W所以指责，愤怒都不是解决问题的方法。事实是残酷的。失去同胞很难过。我们能做的事等待消息，准本参加追悼会， 在必要的时候给与死者家人精神，行动和资金的支持。支持其家人得行动和决定。其实现在最重要的是死者离开homestay的消息。如果你知道任何消息，请联系其家人。这也是家人在这里寻求帮助的真正目的。

[quote]原帖由 alpha 于 2007-12-26 22:03 发表 * F2 T5 K4 x; V/ F' H8 g. [2 q$ s
我个人一直希望大家发言的太度。; P  p; [! v& j2 j  q* ?/ R
像楼上说的“That is because you never suddenly lose any dearest lovers like this way!& |+ f3 O6 C5 C6 b3 \- C
”即是不正确的。你怎么知道别人没有这样的经历呢？证据何在呢？这是一个典型的没有证据，断然 ... [/qu) A8 r- @% ?" Q- [! P$ ?
if you do, you will never say the same word and will feel the same pain as his parents because you will recall the feeling when you lost your dearest lovers. I was cured by doctor after the accident, and he told me that is normal. There is a word for this kind of case: Unnatural death. Suddenly  and unnaturally lost dearest lovers  is the painest experience in the world because you always think if I did this or that before, it will never happen and everything will stay the same. Why did not I do this? Why??? All my post before is to tell his relatives stay calm and know what they are going to do, but we cannot do anything for them because we do not have right, but at least we can support them instead of saying the word like this. Does anyone here have the same experience? I doubt. When I faced the same situation 6 months ago, there were hundreds of people said different words to me every day, and after that I know which one is useful and which one really hurts even I know probably it was not his intention.

咱们组织一个游行吧! 凭什么留学生出了事当局就这么不管不问的! 要是加拿大人出了事怎么那帮警察忙得都像三孙子似的? 渥太华那事不是一游行就把杀人犯找出来了吗? 咱们组织一下, 去大学和警察局游行, 然后再给渥太华大使馆联名上书!